Laurie Bryson
by Laurie Bryson, M.A., LPC
Member, EMS Weekend Specialist

Is My Spouse a Narcissist?

Is my spouse a narcissist?

It's a valid question.

After a longstanding pattern (sometimes years) of acting-out behavior with affairs, pornography, and sexual encounters, this is a normal question for any betrayed partner to be asking.

On occasion, I have been asked directly from someone who has had an affair, "Am I a narcissist?"

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Unfortunately, there is no DNA sample or blood test that can give you an answer to this question. Even the most qualified psychologists and therapists can weigh in with their opinions, yet they are not the ones who live the life you live and experience what you do day after day.

Most likely, if you are asking this question, you are really asking if there is any hope for your mate or for your relationship. It's easy to think that if you are able to identify or name a pattern of behavior over time, that will help you know how to move forward.

So is there hope? How do you know the behavior you're seeing is something that can be changed?

When someone is unfaithful, whether it's affairs, pornography use, or one-night stands, all secret sexual behavior has to do with that person leaving their committed relationship to get what they want. It is not only selfish, but it is entirely self-serving and contrary to what we consider as love.

With that being said, unfaithful spouses can often exhibit some narcissistic behaviors without qualifying as a true pathological narcissist who is incapable of having a secure and safe relationship.

There are many books and articles on this subject which I'll link at the end, but here is a short, certainly not exhaustive, list of what truly identifies narcissistic behavior:

  1. Those individuals with narcissistic behavior are literally unable to say they are sorry.
  2. When confronted, they often get really angry and refuse to take responsibility.
  3. They often do not have deep and lasting friendships. They may have a lot of acquaintances, but not people who deeply know them.
  4. They are unable to find or keep a therapist for more than a few months.
  5. They have a very inflated sense of themselves and often feel the rules don't apply to them.
  6. They often have a very low threshold for discomfort or confrontation. They will act one way in public or in front of others and often act very differently with their mate at home.
  7. They have a pattern of cutting conversations off when they are uncomfortable or angry, including hanging up on people.
  8. They are incapable of the ability to show true and deep empathy for others. Rarely will they display an ability to show genuine tears or remorse for their actions. (Please note: genuine.)
  9. There is a pattern of turning their own behavior back on you. (For example, if they are controlling, they will often tell you that you are being controlling. Or if they are caught in a lie, they will defend by telling you that you are the one that is lying.)

As human beings, if we typically see someone show sadness, a healthy and well-adjusted response would be for us to be able to mirror and feel sadness too. Something is very off if we see someone crying and we find ourselves feeling nothing. This could be an indicator that the emotions the person in front of us is trying to express aren't true.

We want you to figure out what it means to not only be a safe and secure person, but also to be in a safe and secure relationship. If you are constantly feeling crazy, then something is definitely off. You need to pay attention to that.

I applaud you for doing the work and for asking the hard questions. It's helpful to try to identify what may be happening. However, this is not something you will be able to answer quickly nor will you figure it out without the help and insight of others.

I recommend attending one of our in-person EMS Weekends. They are led by an experienced team that can help you and your spouse navigate these difficult conversations.

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Some books I recommend on the topic of narcissism are listed below.

The book Safe People: How to Find Relationships That Are Good for You and Avoid Those That Aren't* by Dr. Henry Cloud and Dr. John Townsend is a classic, simple read on the concept of what it looks like for a relationship to be safe.

Another one of the oldest but most basic books on narcissism (there are hundreds out there today) is Enough About You, Let's Talk About Me: How to Recognize and Manage the Narcissists in Your Life* by Dr. Les Carter.

When You're the One Who Cheats: Ten Things You Need To Know*, Dr. Tammy Nelson is a comprehensive list of good questions to ask to help identify what patterns of behavior are at play in your relationships.

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Another angle

Thanks for this, I am a recovered addict whose partner displays these traits. For many years I attempted repair and restoration. I thought we were getting somewhere, my sobriety extended over 10 years, and yes I know it is only an indicator, but I was genuinely trying to meet her and help her where she was.

All to say, this can also extend in the direction opposite than addict, it can be an issue in the betrayed spouse that stops any real progress toward intimacy. There is little dialogue in the recovery space about this and that leaves a few of us guys in limbo.

Last year she surprised our couples therapist and myself and decided to end things. I did not have good boundaries with her, thinking I needed to allow her to have her way since i did the damage...27 years ago. I lost myself in my thinking that i needed to compromise in areas I had no business compromising.

"I don't want you to refer to me as your wife..."
"We are not a couple..."
"I will give this a few more months then decide..."
"I am not in love with you anymore, I cannot commit to a future with you..."
"I cannot attend your mother's funeral because I did not like her or what she did to you..."
"I am too busy to attend your Father's funeral..."

I placed my hope in the relationship instead of my faith where it belonged.

Maybe it took this to help me learn it, but it took longer than it needed to or could have, had I had better counsel and insight into this. Not blaming her, just sorting out things for myself and reconciling my own truths about me. It was quite confusing to believe you are doing everything possible but nothing being good enough.

Thanks for listening...my journal entry today :)

Another Angle

Sounds like Borderline Personality Disorder.
It never will be good enough.
It's like trying to fill the Grand Canyon with a water pistol...
Except the Grand Canyon has a bottom.
We take our responsibility, do what we have control over and set very strong boundaries.
Our fight is not against flesh and blood but against the powers and principalities of this dark world.
Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things will be added unto you.
God bless you 🙏

Wish i knew all of this sooner

Wish i knew all of this sooner, as my ex wife had 2 years of affairs with 10 men, and even went to participate in gangbangs at bdsm clubs. Even when i discovered just one affair partner in the start, she tried to hush down the severity.

I no longer have to wonder,

I no longer have to wonder, since my man-child checks off almost every box (here, and from many other resources and experts), making it quite clear he has an abundance of narcissistic traits. These people are the poster-children of ME, ME, only ME!!! Whether there's a clinical label or not (most true narcissists don't seek help so are never “officially" diagnosed) doesn’t really matter, because they’re abnormal and don’t have the inner capacity OR desire to change themselves. They’re always right and you, or anyone else, are always wrong about anything that doesn’t suit their agendas. The term "self-centered" doesn’t even begin to cover the controlling, subhuman robots that they are. They can’t even “see” you. You’re just an “extension" of them, a mere object to be used and discarded at will...often on a daily basis, and especially if you dare stand up for yourself, or institute a boundary.

After decades of witnessing his continual mental/emotional/psycholgical deterioration and the resulting escalation of abusive and contemptuous behavior, I’m a shell of who I used to be. I get treated as far lowlier and less deserving than everyone else, in the most vexatious ways, including such spitefulness as consistently using enthusiatic, written “!!!”s and showing (albeit inauthentic) concern for others in any context, but not for me. An endless stream of deaths by a thousand cuts, OR wildly explosive bombs, often depending on whether he got enough egoic “supply” from others in a given day.

You cannot “work through” faithlessness with these types, period. I bent over backwards learning from this site and others, before I even confronted him on all his secretive, emotional (that I know of, maybe more?) steppings-out on me through the years, all to no avail. He kept bizarrely repeating “AbsoLUTEly!” to all the proof I had gathered, as if it was nothing more than an impersonal business meeting to him! He appreciated none of my heedful efforts, but just took what fed his insatiable ego, and sloughed off everything else. Even on a romantic “make up” trip he continued to ogle other, younger women, and then denied/gaslit what I clearly saw. No one can ever be “enough” for these parasites. I’ve at least learned it’s NOT ME, but HIM who is so malfunctioning.

Yes, the term “narcissist” is being thrown around more these days, in reality because more and more people actually ARE turning into them now, the world has become so insane (if you hadn’t noticed). I never agree that *I* feel “crazy” myself, simply because I can easily tell I’M the sanest one in this NOT-a-relationship! I’m just in despair that I didn’t know what I was dealing with much earlier on, and unfortunately now am in no position to leave and totally fend for myself, knowing about the life-and-death challenges of what’s to come in this world. So if anyone is with one of these emotionally-stunted horror shows, and you’re still able to support yourself by enough means, I’d say carefully plan to GET OUT NOW, while you still can.

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